If I was going to buy it I would have taken the "steal" B) . If I was just observing, I would have informed the seller of its value (regardless of the item). If I paid alot for something, it benefits me to make sure the item stays at its market value incase I sell something in the future. Again, this is a business and this cannot be denied! Call me selfish, but I cannot see anyone saying otherwise, HONESTLY!!! <_<
If I was not a collector and came across a Detecto or Driver (as well as the other rare ones) and I thought selling them for hundred dollars a piece was fair, I would hope someone would email me and tell me the true values before the toys are out of my possession. Sometimes, it is very hard/nearly impossible to do ones homework to find out values if you are not in the field.
First of all, Jean, I was quite happy with the JITB payment :D :D !!! Now in response to your statement. I feel the Ding Robots value has escalated over the last, lets say, ten years or so, slowly but surely. In recent times they have boomed much quicker, definitely due to great finds like Born2rununix's Answerman in Box, Roboronnys JITB, the one I found, Tobor's Bank, Zerox's Cowboy, your Vintage Era Detecto Replica, complete Policeman set and the most exciting of all ....The Driver !!!
Every insurance company handles things differently, but once the values reach four and five thousand and above you have to have it purchased from a professional and established seller/store and/or auctioneer or an "Ebay". Also the cost of insurance is raised higher for more coverage but especially for indivindual coverage that 'floats" around the 5,000.00 dollar area!! You can use private seller's but like Jean said the credibility drops due to the incentive to make the Buck!!! However private sellings will be considered.
I agree with Jean, Topper is the one to speak with about the order of rarity or anything about the Ding history and value. I love his site it's GREAT :) !!
I believe Toy insurance companies work in a similiar fashion. I have done house appraisals on the side and a friend of mine does appraisals for vintage/antique toys, appliances and furniture. Many of these items he does go back over a hunderd plus years !! It almost seems like toys are like the house market and it seems to swing like a pendulum. Some time its a buyers markert and other times its a sellers market. Now and for the past several years it has clearly been a sellers market. I feel Dings, hold there value quite well and they will continue to remain highly valuable, it clearly has been proven!!!
Jean, I agree with your analysis of Toy insurance companies due to working a p/t gig in a smiiliar field and having a friend in the business. But "man" it cost to have the costly collectibles covered (say that fast ten times in a row ;) ) when the collection becomes more valuable or just grows!!!
I am not surprised at the prices of certain Dings. The one I sold Jean was below the value but I was unaware, yet not greedy. This situaiton is similiar to what I came across with the "Jack in the Box". When ever another Cowboy or even better yet an Original Detecto shows up the values of the rarer ones will take another step up!
Hey Jean are you intereseted in "talking about " your Vintage era Custom Detecto. It is impressive and in my opinion, could be considered the "Detecto" until the original shows up!!! By the way I read an earlier thread from Alphadrome about Detecto and it said there were 3 versions actually made. Has anyone seen them???
Hi SH MIke, you are correct, the arms rotated and jiggled around when the powwer pack was on but the head could be mauually put down or left up. As I said before it really is a simple mechanism, but fascinating at the same time!!!
Thank you for your supportive words. The "jack in the box" is fragile as the picture shows and like Jean said, this is probably why it did not make it into the mainstram production. Their are only 2 versions I believe and Roboronny and Jean (at this time) own the only ones that are documented to exist. Of course until another one shows up :D The arms just dangle and rotate when on the track, I believe. The arms have extended plastic which seem to catch the black gear shift which I think spins them around once the power pack is on?? I did not try this, but it looks like this is what would happen. The head is placed mauually up or down. It can run the track with head in either positin but the arms must be out when powerpack is in.
To all the Ding collectors and others who express an interest I will put up some other pictures of this robot to settle the dust once and for all!! I put Rocky up next to it to show the color fade and how it is consistent with Jack especially around the Hong Kong 1970 on the back of his head. I am sure many will be happy to see more pictures and respect it as "Jack", others will be critical because we are just "lowly Ding Collectors" as another gentleman expressed so candidly :( ;) ! It looks like it broke and was repaired from within in the past but how many vintage originals are C-10's anyway?
To all those that are interested in questions about this piece, I already mailed it to Jean. The inside is very plain and the head springs down to the base, no father. The Arms are plastic extensions with springs around it . They do not go into the body if the Powerpack is not in. It is amazing the majority of non ding collectors make it clear they do not respect the toys and always find a way to put it down. When ever one of your "Tin Wonders" pops up on ebay or whatever it is treated as the second comming of the "messiah" and one is showered in praise!! Never questions about it, only praise even if I believe somthing looks fishy. I really do not care what one thinks, it is what it is and if I had it now I would definitely not show any other picutres because all one would do is find another way to put it down :angry: . Most of these Tin collectors despise these toys because of their awesome value, looks and marketability. Get over it !! I agree with Robnoronny 100%. All these questions never pop up with their rusted possessions!!
Jean if you have any other questions past our discussions and pictures please let me know.
You know, if I had a million dollars and gave it to one onf these winners, he/she would probably say "damn why you give it to me now!!" :angry:
I made a mistake the arms do not go in the body when the powerpack is in. Obviously because it takes up all the space!
Well, like I said this is a toy but was also an investment. If the right situaiton comes up I would part with it. The right situation came up!! :rolleyes: Jean it has been a pleasure and you should receive by Saturday.
Thanks for the kind words robronny. I guess we both "popped out" are heads into some good fortune!! Its a dry joke but I had to say it :D !! Most of people's comments have been kind and respectful. At this time I am speaking to Jean on a possible offer. I love the toy but it is an investment that can be bought or bartered, if it falls into place. If not, it stays on my shelf :D
I took the pictures before I made the purchase to show how I was buying it. I knew it was almost unbelieveable so I wanted to make it a Kodak Moment as proof to robot collectors!! Upon the picture I made the purchase and quickly!!
The "Jack in the Box" is very rare among the Ding robot series. It is as rare as the Driver, Bank, Policeman with "Nightstick and Whistle" and the Cowboy. The most rare is Detecto because it has not been seen (only as a custom design). I believe their are two versions of several of the Dings, I just do not know how many have more than one version outside of a few. Can anyone help me on this part??
I was looking at some garage sales while I was on vacation in California (I am from the NYC area ). I was walking around with my friends and I noticed several toys for sale in someone's yard. I just looked for the heck of it and then I saw an odd looking one from a slight distance (caught my eye). When I went up to it, it looked like Jack in the Box (Type one) Ding a ling robot :) . Robronny has the Type two and now I saw what the type one looks like!!!! :D :D I could not believe this!!! :o I offered for the Big blue Robot so he would not see what my true interest was. Once I told him the big blue robot he said 20.00 bucks. I said that is kind of high considering it looks very worn. He informed me final offer 18.00 dollars. I said 20 if I can throw in a few others!! He said said 30.00 if you take any other 2 of your choice. That was my ticket!! I asked him if he ever heard of the Ding a Ling Robots from Topper Toys (of course after I bought the items and had them in my possession). He said no it was just junk in the house he bought a few weeks ago. My poker face held its own!!! :ph34r: :ph34r: If he sees this write up on Alphadrome he will Flip!!!!
After looking it over it is a true mold!! This makes my day.
Dear Sonny, would you mine informing us at Alphadrome what kind of comment this is??? :blink: :blink: I fail to see how this has anything to do with the art of "Robot Collecting" and I find this comment to be quite distasteful!!! :angry: